andrew ([info]heiligekuh) wrote,
@ 2007-11-18 15:01:00
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Time spent on the couch
So, when annika came home form the hospital, I rightly surmised that I was going to spend a lot of time on the couch where I was only going to have half (or less) of a brain. So I decided that I needed some TV to watch that wouldn't punish me for zoning out for a few minutes, and not so loud or explody that it would disturb the baby. So, I decided to use this time ot watch all of DS9.

[info]usernamenumber and I realized somewhere around the time Bab5 was ending that DS9 was doing some neat stuff, but that we had been so focused on the *really* good SF show that we had lost track of the developing goodness of DS9. So, I decided to start from the start.

Now I'm just over a season into it, (It's a bit strange. S1 is only 20 eps, while S2 is 26. Is there a story here?) and man, is it ever Star Trek! There's so much technobabble, so many non-existent problems that are created and solved all in sentances that mean absoutley nothing outside the constructed langauge of Trek. But, that's what makes it good baby fodder. I can miss an entire scene with everyone milling around Ops and come back and nothing si=gnificant has changed.

There's also the attempts to make DS9 different that seem so. . .marginal from this distance. "charachter's won't always get along!" Well, that's true, but they don't really do much about it. Odo harasses Quark. Quark takes it. Julian wants to sleep with Dax. Dax laughs. While it's a change from the Superfriends cameraderie of TNG, all of the conflicts are . . pasted on. If anything it seems like everyone has these rough edges that are just waiting to get smoothed out so everythign fits into the nice TNG model.

yeah - - -first season DS9 isn't awesome. I wnet back and triend to figure out when "good" DS9 starts, and the conensus seems to be somewhere between "when Sisco shaves his head" and "when Worf shows up." Both of which are actually aroundthe time that TNG ends, and Ron Moore comes over as a writer/nominal show runner.

Has anyone else tried to do a systematic rewatch of a trek series in recent years?


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[info]chasbrown
2007-11-19 01:09 am UTC (link)
Okay, so take every reference to ST and fill with the name of a genus of caddisfly, or the genital part of a caddisfly, and you have my life.

How I long to sit on the couch and think of the things you think about...

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[info]trishalynn
2007-11-19 04:43 am UTC (link)
No, but I've wanted to do that with the first four seasons of TNG or DS9, the former because of Wil Wheaton, and the latter because I've heard that DS9 was the most nuanced of the Trek shows.

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[info]heiligekuh
2007-11-19 07:49 am UTC (link)
As much as I love Wil Wheaton, I find that reading his writeups at TV Squad is more than enough to sate my TNG cravings. There's just not enough going on in a given episode to keep my interest for very long.

Which is also the problem with DS9. I find myself making fun of the space outfits more than listening to the dialog, and losing whole scenes to Annika's squalling and not missing a beat in the episode. Although I think this changes as DS9 continues, right now ther'es not much of a B plot in any given episode. Every scene, even the tangential ones, is tied up in whatever this weeks' plot pushes forward. But often those connections are just fakeouts (oh maybe you're the bad guy? Oh, sorry, it's this other guy over here) or techno-babble dead ends. Those are the bits that just feel like padding.

And while DS9 has had several nice character moments in the first season (The teenage girl who's in diplomatic negotiations, some of the Cardassian's monologues in "Duet," Sisco's silly baseball habit), but they're just hanging there now. They don't connect to the plot much, or to each other. Hell, there's only 1 or 2 Garrek appearances in the entire season!

Hmm. I have a bit mroe, but I think I want to take it back to the main blog.

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[info]8bitmushroom
2007-11-19 05:35 pm UTC (link)
I seem to recall most of the major Cardassian characters were interesting, which would put them a step ahead of most of the "villain" races.

I can't remember if I skipped several of the early DS9 seasons, or just forgot all about them.

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[info]albinoqueen76
2007-11-20 01:53 am UTC (link)
I would love to get into Babalon5, it looks so cool, but I hate watching a show a couple seasons in, especially one that is ending soon. I want to look into getting starting to go on Netflix and starting Babalon from the beginning. As for DS9, never really got into it. I am a huge TNG fan! Will Weaton was such a cutie back them. And there is something about bald men that I love (re: Capt Pichard). But my favorite Trek show is Voyger.

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[info]hvyhvymonster
2007-11-21 12:00 am UTC (link)
I watched all of Voyager season 7 in one sitting, apparently the season where all the episodes were about the Doctor, or Seven, or both. Oddly enough it made me want to watch old next generation episodes, because I had a vague memory of the borg being scary once upon a time.

I do remember enjoying Farscape every now and then once the first season ended. and you can't go wrong with the Prisoner.

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[info]heiligekuh
2007-11-29 06:34 am UTC (link)
I actually did go wrong with The Prisoner. In college, while I was working at Saturn, I went through the series on the VHS copy that Westside had. This meant, generally coming home trashed around 4am from a shift at Saturn, smoking more and trying to watch an episode.

A) I never made it through a whole episode.
B) Always confused the current episode with any of the others.
C) Had confused fever dreams set in the village every night for a month.

So, at the end of it I was a semi-paranoid wreck and had no better idea what the fuck the lizard was there for.

It is a sign of my transformation to boring old man that I now dub this "wrong" rather than "awesome."

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